Yet, is it true that torture doesn’t work?
It seems that torture works well if what you want is that feeling of revenge and to vent frustration rather than useful information.
In the same way, the Iraq war is a success if the aim is to establish an US foothold in the middle east, and keep a large army there for a long time.
It can be helpful to look at politics and one’s own life in this way.
If there is support for a policy that doesn’t seem to work, in what way does it work? What do we get from supporting that policy?
Similarly, on a personal level, when I keep on doing something that doesn’t seem to work, in what ways does it work for me? What desirable results do I get? Maybe I can find another way to meet those needs?
It can help us understand the dynamics a little better, while keeping in mind that these are just assumptions. Questions rather than answers. A what if that may yield insights and suggest different strategies/solutions to try out.
It goes without saying that in conversation or public discourse, assigning views and motivations to others they themselves don’t admit to is a recipe for disaster. It too easily derails the discussion and fuels defensiveness.
Much better then to stay on topic, informed by the new perspectives we may have found through these explorations.