Big Mind, what can you say about taking thoughts as true?
It’s what creates your world.
As soon as a thought is taken as true, there is identification with the viewpoint of that story. The mind makes it appear true through filtering and interpreting perception, and adding on more stories.
As soon as a thought is taken as true, there is a sense of I and Other. There is identification as something within content of experience, and other content becomes Other. I also become Other – awareness, Ground appears as Other.
There is pure perception, and then an overlay of thoughts – taken as true or not.
Images of a past, future and present, tying together images of what happened in the past, what happens now, and what may happen in the future.
Images of an I as observer, doer, chooser.
Images of a me as human being, man or woman, of a certain age.
Images of preferences and ideologies.
Images of other people, a society and culture, a world, a universe.
How can P. explore this?
The simplest is to explore the sense fields. Bring attention to each field, one at a time. Notice what’s there. Stay with this for a while. Then notice how the mental field brings an overlay of images, images that create boundaries, objects with an inside and outside, with certain characteristics, with certain relationships with other objects. Notice how mental labels create name for these objects. Notice how the mental field creates additional stories about these objects and their relationships.
Close your eyes. Imagine the room or outdoors area you sit in. Notice that it’s all images. Imagine your body, notice that as an image. Imagine different body parts. Notice how these images function as an overlay of sensations, and tie them together into a unified whole the mental field labels your body.
Bring attention to sounds. Notice how the mental field places those sounds within an image of space. Notice how the mental field creates images to interpret the sounds.
Bring attention to the me as a human being. Notice the images of a body. Notice the universe of images that describe what type of person this is. Notice these are images.
Bring attention to the I as an observer or doer. Is this too an image? Can you find it outside of an image?
What happens when a thought is taken as true, and not?
When a thought is taken as true, it appears very real. There is identification with it’s viewpoint, and this filters perception and possible choices.
If no thought is taken as true, I am revealed to myself.
Who or what takes a story as true, and why?
I am the one temporarily taking a story as true. And as soon as I do, there is the appearance of an “I” doing so. There is identification as something within content of the field of awareness/experience.
It’s all innocent. It’s just dynamics. And when it happens, this “I” continue to take stories because he/she thinks it will keep him/her more safe.
No. It only creates confusion. It filters perception to create a false world. It filters and limits options for behavior.
He thinks he can find safety through taking thoughts as true, and what he instead gets is everything he tried to avoid: Stress, conflict, unease, the appearance of being an object that was born, will die and is at the mercy of a larger world.
What advice do you have for P.?
Relax. Sit back. You know all of this. You just need to sit back, notice. Reality is all you need. You don’t need to try to believe this or anything else. Look at what’s here. You don’t even need any techniques or tools. You already know. Just allow yourself to notice, be with it, let it sink in.
Is it true you don’t know? Is it true what you are seeking is not already here?
If it’s all created by thoughts taken as true, how come it appears so real?
It’s the job of reality to make a belief appear true. Perception is filtered to make the thought appear true. Emotions respond as if it’s true. Choices are limited as if the thought is true. Behavior follows the thought, as if it’s true. The whole field of experience conforms to make it appear true.
And yet, that’s not quite true. The whole field of experience also invites a noticing of all this. When a thought is taken as true, there is discomfort and this is an encouragement to take a closer look at what’s happening. Reality brings up things that doesn’t fit the thought, and that too is an invitation to question and wake up from the trance. Reality invites itself to question and wake itself up from the trance in innumerable ways.
As Big Mind, I go into the trance to see what happens, how it is. I invite myself to question and wake up from it. Sometimes I do. And then I may go back into the trance again, or not. Sometimes, what I am is so clear I cannot really go back, at least not within the lifetime of the human self that’s here – happening within and as me.
What role does this type of dialog have in this context?
It can be very helpful. It can serve as a reminder. It can help clarify. It helps shift perspective out of the usual ways of perceiving.
It’s a bit like a spice. Use a pinch now and then.
It’s medicine. Sometimes it’s helpful.
It’s a course correction.
And it’s not anything more than that. Don’t get too caught up in it. Use it sparingly.
- taking thoughts as true
- aware, appear as a choice – ideologies etc. (surface level)
- cultural/personal – middle level, people shouldn’t lie etc.
- most basic, me and i, objects etc. – identification as content of experience
- filter perception and choices
- creates emotions, feelings
- creates my whole world – world of images, most basic assumptions
It’s what almost everyone does. They take some or most of their thoughts as true, and they create their whole world that way.
They create the appearance of objects, of things with an inside and outside. There is identification as one or more of these objects – an I as a doer, observer, and a me as a human being, a man or woman, and with a small universe of identities.
When they take a thought as true, reality makes it appear true. Emotions follow beliefs. Feelings follow beliefs. Perception follows beliefs. Choices follows beliefs. Behavior follows beliefs. A life is created according to beliefs.
Most people are only aware of beliefs as what they appear to chose – their ideologies and preferences. But it goes much deeper than that. Beliefs include any personal and cultural belief about oneself, others, and life. People shouldn’t lie. I need a partner in my life. I need money. I need to be admired.
And it goes even deeper. There are objects. I am a human being. I am a man or woman. I am…. a doer, an observer, a chooser. I am. I.
All this creates a whole world that seems very real. There is identification as an I, as something within content of experience. Then identification as a me, a human, a man or woman. Then identification with more roles, as a son or daughter, father or mother, employer or employee. Then identification as someone who likes certain things and not other things, and who has certain values and ideologies.
Beliefs range from the most basic assumptions to apparently consciously chosen preferences and ideologies. It runs through all of it.